While it's also a forum that is not very active. I'd like to think the description of the Aviaries & Breeders Forum helps;

Discuss tips about the care, housing, nutrition etc. for breeder and aviary birds.

The thing that worries me about posting too much in Aviaries, is maybe to encourage irresponsible breeding. It is better if it is kept low profile. I would never want to be responsible for anyone thinking that breeding is easy or profitable.

Okay, now I am lost?????
If not profitable why breed?
I seem to hear this alot in the Breeders world "there's not much profit in breeding birds".
Not to start a arguement, But if not for profit then why breed birds?
Is there an objective?, Oath? Goal? that the breeder follows?
Please....explain so that I might understand more about the breeding world.

I breed because I love birds and it is my hobby. Money spent on my hobby is the same as if collected stamps. I recover (if I am lucky) about 3/4 of the food cost. I come nowhere near recovering all the extras like vet, toys, cages and all the rest.

There are ways to make a lot of money breeding birds. I just choose not to follow that path. If the eggs are taken the pairs lay maybe 3 clutches in place of one. This increases babies hence way more profit. IMO this has a lot of wrong things in depriving the parents and babies of bird life.

I agree. This is a great idea.

Yes it's just like other ways of making money when people think it's quick and easy. Same with breeding dogs or flipping houses. People were buying fixer uppers and thinking they could make a killing then running over budget or using substandard building materials or making mistakes or not passing permits and having to redo things and it wasnt "profitable". Because of lack of knowledge or experience.

As a pet store for me, (not breeding though) there was no "profit" in offering hand fed baby birds by the time you paid for the vet checks, labor and care of them then waiting for them to be sturdy and weaned (to my satisfaction) it was months.

Even if you only factor in an hour per day labor into each bird (which is way low....) so say, minimum 7 hours per week times 16 or more weeks was 112 person hours invested into each bird so say, at 10.00 per hour (at the time) is $1120 LOL for a 500.00 bird that you may have paid 250.00 for on 2-3 feedings...so that bird cost you $870.00.

It was really closer to at least 2 hours per day per bird and worked out to be double that....about $2000.00 cost to offer that bird. And that's just labor not a vet check or toys or floor/cage space etc. You also have to factor in those birds taking up real estate when you could be offering dry stock in that square footage that would turn weekly.

That's in a small store that feeds slowly and carefully, weans correctly, feeds fresh food and socializes the birds. In larger stores you don't have that luxury you can barely keep the formula at temp when you have alot of stock.

Like 2horse said, there are plenty of ways to breed for profit if you don't care about the quality of life of the parents or offspring. Starting with massive sales to stores or handfeeders or even customers who are willing to do the heavy work involved after the chick hatches.

Thanks Cindy good explanation. My pleasure in my hobby is the follow ups on all my babies out there, giving pleasure to others because I supplied a well socialized healthy baby.

Well said Angie.