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Old 05-02-2008, 05:54 AM   #21
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As I stated in my first reply, baby Robins, Starlings, Wrens Etc, thrive on high protein, this is why the parents mainly feed there young earth worms, (mainly not always).
Why dig, almost every sport shop-bait shop has earth worms and meal worms for fisher men.
I go out at night here after a good rain and pick them up off the lawn (might be different in different states).
All should be fine Leigh, lets hope anyways.
So much for trying to help without being attacked.
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:16 AM   #22
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Here's some information concerning a Baby Robin.

Dos for caring for baby birds:

Baby birds without many/any feathers need to be kept warm (body should be warm to touch)

Baby birds need lots of different foods for a healthy diet ñ variety is the watchword

Most baby birds eat a wide-variety of rather soft-bodied insects and they need lots of protein for growth

Baby birds eat about every 20 minutes or so during daylight (dawn to dusk)

Baby birds should be encouraged to beg for food (open mouth with eager calling)

Baby birds have a swallowing reflex that is triggered when food is placed in the back of the mouth

Baby birds sleep at night and are not fed by their parents

Food can be skewered on a toothpick and placed in the baby's throat

If enough food isn't available, you can give dry cat food (see info below) as a temporary measure (NOT a steady diet)

Don'ts for caring for baby birds:

Donít give water directly to your baby bird (they get enough in their food)

ï Donít give sugar water to your baby bird

ï Donít give ANY bread to your baby bird

ï Donít give ANY birdseed to your baby bird

ï Donít give a steady diet of any single food to your baby bird

ï Donít gear your babyís diet around worms

ï Donít give your baby bird a bath, it doesnít need one

Appropriate invertebrates you can look for include - flies, horseflies (remove the wings), grasshoppers without wings and legs, crickets, soft caterpillars, grubs, mealworms in small amounts, spiders, and earthworms in limited amounts. Avoid beetles, bees, wasps, ants, hairy caterpillars, and any hard-bodied insects. If you can get an insect net and sweep your yard or nearby field, youíll get lots and lots of good insects. You may need to be a bit selective so you donít use any bees or wasps, but youíll have many others to choose from.

Providing insects for your bird may become difficult at certain times so you may need to supplement its insect-diet with something else. Dry cat food can be moistened and made into small globs on a toothpick and offered. The cat food is higher in protein than dog food and will help sustain your bird until you can feed more appropriate foods. Do NOT provide a diet of just cat food or your bird will not be healthy and may not even live ñ this is only an interim measure.

If all goes well and your baby grows and develops, a time will come when you recognize that it needs to get ready to be on its own. In nature, when a baby leaves the nest, itís called a fledgling and although it may not fly well, can flutter here and there and usually ends up on a low branch in a bush or low tree. At this point the parents are still feeding their young even though they may not be obvious to the casual observer. This is one of the times many people think a baby bird has been abandoned. As ìyourî baby grows and gets to the point where it can flutter a bit, it should be allowed greater freedom. Even with this freedom, your bird will continue to let you know when it is hungry and needs food from you. Once it is coming to you for food youíve crossed a big hurdle and can now feed it when necessary but allow it to forage on its own too. Soon your baby will be coming to you less and less and eventually not at all ñ your baby has graduated and youíre a proud parent!

John Wiessinger ( May 2, 2006)

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Robins are not seed eaters, I have yet to see a Robin foraging at my bird feeders.
You will see a Robin hopping on the ground searching for earth worms that are close enough to the surface to pull from the ground.
The Robin feed there young earth worms, or Insects, (high in protein).

Ripply's "believe it or not".

I am not going to "scrap" with any member of this forum!

If making a statement "Robins are not necessarily seed eater's bothers anyone "you deal with it".

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Old 05-02-2008, 07:23 AM   #23
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"........So much for trying to help without being attacked".........
Huh? ........ Arty, just for the record = (if you meant me or any part of my posts), I was NOT in any way trying to "attack" you or "scrap" with you. I was simply asking questions and making a couple comments in the interest of helping current and future baby birds. I thought that was pretty clear in the way I worded things. Sorry to see YOU chose to take it in the wrong way.
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:35 AM   #24
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Arty, you did just fine! I will remember the info you gave the next time I have to pick up a baby bird.
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:03 AM   #25
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All is well today. No baby on the ground, thank GOD! I worried all night long it would fall out and be cold. I hurt my back pretty bad moving that ladder. Theres no way I could move it again by myself. So I have to pray that baby stays put.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:18 AM   #26
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Baby was down again, crop empty. I fashioned an extension to the nest, I will post video. Its eyes are open and its peeping noises at me. Its hungry. Momma was trying to get in while I was building the nest. I moved that stupid ladder again, I had to. My back is killing me!
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:13 PM   #27
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If the crop is empty, the mother is not feeding it. If you don't see the father around, that might be the reason why she is not feeding this one (she figures she cannot cope with so many so she stops feeding the smallest one). The other reason could be that there is something wrong with it and she decided the effort was not worth it. I would not put it back in the nest, again. If he falls again, that's it for him. There is only so many times a tiny little bird can fall off that big distance and survive. Most important thing is to keep him warm. Then see if you can find a rehabber in your area and take him to them asap. If you can't, see if you can find somebody who breeds canaries or other passerines, most passerines will feed a baby, any baby, that is hungry. If you can't, try feeding it yourself. Any bird store has egg food available this time of the year and all you have to do is just make a gruel out of it with distilled water and feed it to the baby in its beak. No need for crop needles, an eye dropper will do just fine. Only thing is, it needs to be done every hour on the hour since the sun goes up until the sun goes down. I don't remember where you are located but if you are anywhere near Eastern PA, I can go get him.
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:42 PM   #28
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Leigh is not far from me....and I am 10 minutes from Philadelphia!
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:00 PM   #29
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These videos took all day to load. My last check it was nestled back in again.

MVI_3116.flv - Video - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
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I really dont want to take him from mom just yet.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:28 PM   #30
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Leigh, that nest is so high up in the tree! You certainly get your angel wings for doing all you could to keep these babies in the nest for the Mom. I sure hope it works. Fingers crossed that you see Mom go to the nest to feed them.
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