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10-31-2007, 09:21 AM
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#11 | | | Re: Talking age for Timnehs I have 2 CAGs -- both female. Gabby turned 3 this past September and Jello will be turning 3 this coming March. Jello has talked since she was 6 months old and has an amazing vocabulary and an uncanny ability to mimic the tone and inflection of my voice -- she sounds just like me! Gabby has never spoken words but mimics all kinds of sounds. Jello is very much a hands-off type grey -- she prefers to stand on my arm but does not like to be touched or petted. Gabby is the complete opposite -- she is a cuddlebug and will lay upside down in the palm of my hand and go into a trance as I stroke the feathers along her neck. 2 greys, very close in age, raised together by the same person and yet 2 completely different personalities and completely different sets of vocal abilities.
I think that the talking abilities of greys are way over-promoted and create unrealistic expectations among the public. Gabby's parents were both good talkers yet she is not. (I have no information on the speaking ability of Jello's parents.) As my experience with Gabby and Jello shows, some simply have the knack for speaking and others don't. It is impossible to predict. I, like you, would never think of parting with my non-speaking grey. She communicates just fine with me and is a very smart little girl with a ton of personality. I do wonder though how many greys are ignored, re-homed or surrendered to rescues due to the disappointment of their keepers in their lack of speaking ability.
I will tell you that I have a female umbrella cockatoo named Izzy who turned 4 this month. Up until this month, she has always spoken gibberish which I called "baby-talk". But in the last few days, she is saying pretty clearly "Hi Izzy" and "hello". I am very surprised that at 4 years of age, she is speaking her first words. I never expected this to happen. So who knows, maybe Ollie will learn to speak yet! |
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10-31-2007, 09:33 AM
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#12 | | | Re: Talking age for Timnehs Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyMiester I agree that one should not get a bird solely for talking abilities, but most seem to get greys because of their well know abilities to do so. I will not get rid of my grey if he never talks, but it would be nice if I could exchange words with him. To be honest, if I wanted a bird just for the other qualities other than talking, I would have gotten a Quaker. Quakers are so much more interactive with nearly the same intelligence. as the greys.
I got my timneh for the intelligence, looks,and vocal abilities, and I would not treat him any different because he will not talk. I love all creatures including snakes, lizzards, dogs, cats etc... one has to admit that when their bird says "I love you" or "whatcha doin" makes it all the more special. I think whether people admitt it or not, most would love to have their loved one speak words and interact vocally with them. My dog and cat can't talk but I still love them unconditionally, the same with Ollie, However, if one day he can talk, it would be that much more special. | I completely understand what you're saying. When I first started toying with the idea of a larger parrot, I thought I wanted a B&G. Then I saw Einstein the grey on PetStar on Animal Planet. I was immediately attracted to the intelligence, and also potential talking ability of the greys. Of course I didn't get Ollie just so that I could have a talking parrot--but the idea of having a bird that may eventually have a few hundred word vocab was appealing to me. I would love Ollie the same if she never spoke a word, but hearing words come out of her mouth is a great bonus.
I agree that a lot of people probably get greys because of their talking ability. To me, Ollie is one of the 4 most beautiful birds in the world, but let's face it- grey's aren't bright and colorful like most of your other parrots. They're often described as tempermental, nervous, sensitive, and even neurotic, and they're very prone to feather picking (although obviously there are exceptions). I believe it's their intelligence and, even more so, their talking ability that has most people overlooking those traits.
Your Ollie is still young- he may talk yet!
Last edited by cfulhage; 10-31-2007 at 09:35 AM.
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10-31-2007, 09:58 AM
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#13 | | | Re: Talking age for Timnehs Quote:
Originally Posted by cfulhage I completely understand what you're saying. | It's amazing how we think so much alike.
I interact with him daily and he gets out-of-cage time for around a solid 4-5 hours a day. He is a great bird and loves to pluck my 5:00 shadow. I know he is still developing his personality, but after reading the article, I got a little less hopeful that he would ever talk to me.
I feel better now  |
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