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Old 01-09-2008, 08:06 AM   #1
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Default Controversial article - read carefully before freaking out!

PLEASE read carefully before freaking out!

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Many years ago my parents gave me a parrot.[What type? - a Budgie? - a Tiel? - a Lovebird? - here is the crux. I don't think it was a Too, Zon or even a Poi] The first thing I learned is that parrots can be dangerous to be around. [really! - how young was he?- not many people knew much about animal behavior 20/30 yrs ago]They can do major damage to your fingers and other body parts. At the time, I was living and working with my friend Reeves Teague. He understood animals from a "country boy" perspective having grown up in the mountains of North Carolina. Here is the process I learned from Reeves, and modified over the years.

1. Invite an attack with an open and loving countenance.

The parrot is going to try and bite you no matter what, as a natural act of self preservation. Instead of trying to stop him from biting you, utilize his current behavior and encourage it. Wear something to protect your fingers, and invite the parrot to bite you.

Welcoming and utilizing the parrot's current behavior even if it is violent, is very much in the spirit of Aikido and Ericksonian Hypnosis.

In Ericksonian Hypnosis you utilize the client's "bad" behavior and join with and validate their current model of the world, rather than trying to change the client and give him the message he is doing something wrong.

In Aikido when you encourage your counterpart to express themselves physically, and they attack you, they are actually following your directions, and doing what you have asked. At such times the attack becomes definitely less violent, as the attacker unconsciously realizes that on a deep level they are cooperating with you.

Whether the activity be Aikido training or parrot training, when you welcome the attack, the attack winds up being a lot less vicious.

2. Encourage violence and tenderness at the same time. [I seriously doubt he meant to say 'encourage violence - but meant not to freak out if the bird is violent & therefore encourage it]

Leave your finger in the cage and encourage the parrot to gnaw on it. With your free hand gently rub the parrot's head much like you might do with a dog or cat. When you and the parrot are tender and violent at the same time, you are beginning to engage in the act of play.

3. Reward the negative behavior and thus re-frame the meaning of the behavior. [ about Now is where I began to see he wasn't insane]

When you reward the "bad" behavior, the behavior is no longer bad. The parrot bites your right hand and you reward him by giving a snack with your left hand. The relationship is circular in nature. It doesn't take long before the parrot loses his enthusiasm for biting you. He still very much wants the snacks you feed him after each attack, but he would rather not have to do all of the biting to get the goodies.

4. Blur the starting and stopping points, blur the difference between good and bad.

The parrot has been biting one hand and you have been nuzzling the parrot and feeding him with your other hand. Now take the hand that has been doing the nuzzling and feeding and present it to the parrot for biting. When the parrot takes a playful nip, you nuzzle him with the hand he was previously gnawing on.

When you encourage the parrot to bite the hand that feeds him! His confusion will be obvious.

5. Change the reason for the reward.

After the "break in" period you only give a snack when the parrot is gentle and playful. Little by little you thus change the reference behavior for getting the snack. Usually at this stage, anyone that moves slowly can play with the parrot with little concern about getting bitten.

I have found the above method, to be by far the fastest, easiest, and most humane way to tame a parrot, and calm down children that appear to have a violent streak.


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Charlie Badenhop is the originator of Seishindo, an Aikido instructor, NLP trainer, and Ericksonian Hypnotherapist.[Article] To deal with agressive behavior effectively, invite the attack

So take a deep breath - read it again & reply ...
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: Controversial article - read carefully before freaking out!

I consider the source, giggle and say "Thanks for the chuckles" and move on.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:51 AM   #3
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Hmmm...weird.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:01 AM   #4
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Ummm...yes...weird. A little off the wall actually.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:36 PM   #5
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Default Re: Controversial article - read carefully before freaking out!

I don't agree with what he's saying exactly - in case any of your were worried about hurting my feelings. It doesn't look like he had any more experience than this 1 mystery parrot.
,,,,I just agreed with him on the patience & bonding & treats & not overreacting to aggression.

I found it on another board & everyone there was very upset & really hated it. One other person felt like me -that it had some merit in a very strange way.

So thought I'd share - you know we read all sorts of stuff & we really have to question the source & what is being said.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:30 PM   #6
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Ok, I think this guy is a little nuts. I mean, encouraging a bird to bite you is not going to get him to lose intrest in biting you.
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Default Re: Controversial article - read carefully before freaking out!

I'm not thinking of trying this or anything, but if it worked for him, maybe it's not too crazy.
I think we should be open to new ideas about how to relate to our birds.
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Default Re: Controversial article - read carefully before freaking out!

I won't dismiss it out of hand........but I don't think I'll be trying it with Chico right away. I think there's a possibility that some of it could have some merit. On one hand, we regularly advise trying not to react or freak out about aggressive behavior. On the other hand, actively rewarding such behavior seems counterintuitive to everything I've ever learned about animal training, whether with birds or other species. On the third hand, a lot about avian behavior seems a bit counterintuitive to us furry mammals anyway! But its hard to imagine that these techniques wouldn't have spread like wildfire long ago through the avian community if they were really that effectual.
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Default Re: Controversial article - read carefully before freaking out!

He must have never dealt with an angry grey or a mean macaw! If he had he wouldn't have the fingers to type that with!
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Wow...
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