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Old 03-22-2008, 10:51 PM   #11
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Sending prayers your way ......

Can you offer to foster the bird for him for now?. He doesnt sound like he's in the right frame of mind or has the means to properly care for her and just might take you up on the offer.... he'll never get $2,000 if the bird is sick or injured .... you can tell him that you'll look for someone to buy the bird. I dont think Jessica should let on that she wants Gabby ... he may harm the bird just to get back at Jessica and make her pay. 99% of the time, if someone keeps talking about suicide they wont do it. The are looking for attention/help. There is that 1% that will act out on their threats but usually they dont. Legally, if the bird is his, theres nothing anyone can do. The law unfortunately still see's pets as property. Unless the bird is abused or neglected, animal control/police wont get involved. Some states have 'common law' marriage after being together for so many years and view property as 50/50. He would still own 50% of the bird. This is so sad, the animals are also victims when relationships go wrong. I pray everything works out.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:08 PM   #12
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The bird isnt sick or injured as far as of yesterday. Jessica is also scared of him even now. Most of her stuff is still in the appartment. She is even scared that he might start stalking her. I told her to get a restraining order on him. She is staying with her parents right now untill she gets on her feet a little bit. She told me not to tell him where she is going after she finds an Appartment and I wont but the thing is, is right now she is at her parents and he knows where that is at. He is almost obssed over her. The text message we got from him eariler crept me out. He was talking suicide the other day and it is still on my mind. The text message, all it said was tell jay I love her . That was it. It crept me out cause we live right next to him and we havent seen any lights on cause she cut off the electricity and we havent seen him out, in his car, or at our friend joes appartment. It makes me wonder why that was all he wrote and why is it more directed to her. I dont know, I called her earlier to check up on her. Her phone was off, my husband said he was probably calling her alot so she turned it off. So I am going to call her tomarrow and my husband is going to ring the door bell to see how he is. I told my husband not to go to the appartment because our male friend does have a gun, to only ring the doorbell and if he doesnt come down stairs and answer it, I guess oh well. When should I start being concerned, how many days will it be before I should wonder or call someone if we dont see or here from him. He is completly by himslef. He is just not acting right. They havent been together long enough for common law yet. ~Jenna
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:25 PM   #13
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She can call the police and request a security check on him. She needs to tell them whats going on, that he's talking about suicide and he is in possession of a firearm... and that she fears for his safety and hers. They will go to his apartment and check on him. I would NOT go over there under these circumstances. I understand the bird isnt sick or injured, but if the money is that important to him, he needs to be told that the bird needs to stay safe and healthy if he wants his money, he may let someone else care for the bird for now.
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:58 AM   #14
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If the man is really hurting for money, and trusts you, maybe you can offer to buy the bird on an installment plan, just ten or twenty bucks a week, and you will pay for the bird food and any vet bills. Every dollar helps for an addict (I know you don't want to encourage the behaviors, but addiction will usually find a way to support itself). If he has had the bird "on the market" with no takers for a few days, this may seem like a really good deal. And, if he lives too close, I might send the bird "on holiday" to someone who lives a few miles away so that he does not come to visit. It will be much easier to find a permanent home when the pressure is off. Good luck.
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:18 AM   #15
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She can call the police and request a security check on him. She needs to tell them whats going on, that he's talking about suicide and he is in possession of a firearm... and that she fears for his safety and hers. They will go to his apartment and check on him. I would NOT go over there under these circumstances. I understand the bird isnt sick or injured, but if the money is that important to him, he needs to be told that the bird needs to stay safe and healthy if he wants his money, he may let someone else care for the bird for now.
I'm not sure of what the law is in MI but here in Florida if she called the cops they would go there and have him baker acted. They would take him to the mental health floor of the hospital and hold him for 72 hours for evaluation. He would receive the medical attention he needs. It would also give her time to take the bird and any other belongings she may have left.
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The bird isnt sick or injured as far as of yesterday. Jessica is also scared of him even now. Most of her stuff is still in the appartment. She is even scared that he might start stalking her. I told her to get a restraining order on him. She is staying with her parents right now untill she gets on her feet a little bit. She told me not to tell him where she is going after she finds an Appartment and I wont but the thing is, is right now she is at her parents and he knows where that is at. He is almost obssed over her. The text message we got from him eariler crept me out. He was talking suicide the other day and it is still on my mind. The text message, all it said was tell jay I love her . That was it. It crept me out cause we live right next to him and we havent seen any lights on cause she cut off the electricity and we havent seen him out, in his car, or at our friend joes appartment. It makes me wonder why that was all he wrote and why is it more directed to her. I dont know, I called her earlier to check up on her. Her phone was off, my husband said he was probably calling her alot so she turned it off. So I am going to call her tomarrow and my husband is going to ring the door bell to see how he is. I told my husband not to go to the appartment because our male friend does have a gun, to only ring the doorbell and if he doesnt come down stairs and answer it, I guess oh well. When should I start being concerned, how many days will it be before I should wonder or call someone if we dont see or here from him. He is completly by himslef. He is just not acting right. They havent been together long enough for common law yet. ~Jenna
Thanks for checking on the bird and the man! I'm sure the individual likes the company of the bird as he has nobody to turn to at this point, let's hope he has the funds to take care of it. You might offer to take care of the bird for awhile or offer to provide a parrot mix for the bird to eat. Keep checking on both of them as they both need support right now. You might mention to the man the bird is worth nothing if sick or injured.

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Such a sad story. I hope that both parties get help. It is so sad when pets & other people get pulled into the mayhem.

Mental imbalances & other issues can be so frustrating & the one who can be forgotten, is also the one most in trouble. I'm sorry your friend was hurt as well & relieved she got out.

The macaw is in a terrible situation. I hope he sees that letting it go - with whatever deal is offered - is best for the bird. Then he's free to focus on getting better.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:57 PM   #18
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Ok here is an update. Our male friend is slowly doing better he just crys when we see him. The bird is just fine so far. Like I said I hope he can get rid of her before he goes crazy again. My husband and I are on his good graceses again. So we will continue to check on him and the bird periodicaly. So far we have seen him at least once a day and we keep asking about Gabby. He may lower the price for her to $1500 with cage. He hasnt desided. I hope he does or I hope Jessica can get on her feet again and just buy her from him. Jessica is doing better too. She may have found a place already and will be moving in, in a month, she has a new phone number too, so he wont mess with her as much. She is also calling him because she wants to get her stuff when she gets a new place.(without him knowing her new number *67 or whatever it is) He already has the bedroom set ready for her to get it. She is also checking up on him once a day so far. She either calls him herself or ask us how he is because I think she is worried just like the rest of us. She even said she wants to remain friends with him but right now she just needs her space for a while for things to calm down and for some of the pain to go away. See she is young this was her first love. After things calm, I am sure he wont be a threat to her but, right now she is just worried about what he is going to do. I dont think he is a threat at this time. I think he is just really hurt but, if there is a threat then the downside of this would be that he still knows where her parents live and where she works. He is really depressed to. I still think he needs some help but, it wont do any good me saying that he does and no one else admitting it because they dont want to hurt him or start something. Well anyways here is an update. Please continue praying that he gets Gabby sold and that he become better. Also pray that Jessica will get back on her feet and move on. ~Jenna
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Such a sad story. I hope that both parties get help. It is so sad when pets & other people get pulled into the mayhem.

Mental imbalances & other issues can be so frustrating & the one who can be forgotten, is also the one most in trouble. I'm sorry your friend was hurt as well & relieved she got out.

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I do think he has some mental issues. See I took some Psychology in school and he just fits the standard for bipolar and depression. He just worries me a bit because of it. I almost feel sorry for him because he needs help and I feel like I am the only one who sees that he does. ~Jenna
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