Does anyone have information about Xanthomas, specifically wing tip Xanthomas?

Cindy215, if you see this post, you have mentioned a few times about CO ??? that you use to supplement or help with Lipomas, would you elaborate?

Karen, I think Cindy215 referenced Co-Q10. I have no idea what amounts to use, however.

Thanks, I looked up Co-Q10 to see what it was.
Co-Q10

Hopefully someone will know about dosage and if it may help with Xanthoma's. Xanthoma's are a little different than Lipomas and we believe what we're dealing with has been caused by prior wing tip trauma.

Karen,

I can ask my rescue friend about the xanthomas. Yes it's different and the heart and breathing seems to be the deal with Co-Q10 relief but lets see. Is this for Macaw birds?

She's the one who gave me the CO-Q10 info originally. She's very experienced and medically knowledgable with animals. She's seen alot.

Here's the info she posted a long time ago on a Budgie post and has no objection to her info being crossposted. Linda Brink, Sunnyskies. She's not a nut either LOL.

QUOTE:
1. COQ10 can help with keet tumors--I've used it and had some very positive results. The form you need is 30 mg, in capsules, not gel caps--Natrol (purple label) makes a quality CoQ10 capsule, and supermarkets with specialty sections may carry it. The really cheap brands do not contain the root of the herb, so avoid them. The product should be very yellow, viewed through a clear capsule.


2. COQ10 is fat-soluble, which means it's stored in the body, and is best described as a vitamin-like nutrient. It's naturally found in a concentrated quantity in soy oil, peanuts, organ meats, and fish, and in an unconcentrated quantity in many other foods--but your own body manufactures it, too. As living creatures get older, however, the amount of COQ10 necessary to maintain a good immune system, healthy heart, and healthy liver can cease to be manufactured by the body. There doesn't appear to be a toxic dosage of COQ10.

COQ10 is involved in enzymatic and chemical reactions in the body, and is an important catalyst in the chemical reactions that take place to produce energy. COQ10 is a powerful antioxidant. It destroys things called free radicals that circulate through the body and cause disease. The heart and liver have the most concentrations of this coenzyme--and benefit from supplemented CoQ10 when diseased or under stress.


This product works for birds by taking stress off the heart and liver as these organs perform the many metabolic and chemical interactions necessary to maintain health--which is how it works for people, too. Due to poor breeding genetics, poor diet, a lack of adequate exercise, and lack of natural sunlight, birds kept in houses often suffer from heart and liver disease--among other health issues.

The dose I use for birds is a sprinkling on their food. To do this, you need to purchase the COQ10 in 30 mg capsule form (not gelcap, which you can't open up). You open the capsule and sprinkle the yellow powder on the food. For one keet or tiel, I use about 1/4 capsule daily, sprinkled on to of their moist food, but sprinkling on dry food is fine also.

I had a lovebird diagnosed with a heart problem that was given 1 to 3 months to live when I started him on COQ10. His heart was affecting his pulmonary system as it failed, resulting in labored breathing. After just a few days on COQ10, Tiny Tim's breathing was noticeably improved. He lived for years after, and only recently died, at approximately age 12. I've had parakeets brought to me that had tumors/lipomas that disappeared when put on maintenance COQ10. As a result, I sprinkle 30 mg capsules on the food tray for my keets on a daily basis--2 capsules for 7 keets. They look terrific and are repeatedly living to age 12 or older. I've only lost one to cancer in years--we just had Mikey put to sleep for liver cancer, as he was beginning to suffer. Mikey was at least 7.



Of course, good diet, flight, and a stress free environment with full spectrum lighting also contribute greatly to the health of these birds. But I do believe the COQ10 helps--it's pretty much the only supplemental product I give to my birds on a regular basis.


So, that's about it for COQ10 and birds. I don't know of any scientific studies done with birds regarding this nutrient, so what I've provided here has no proven factual basis. Still, I have personally seen too many positive results from its use by me, and others, to doubt that it's anything but a good thing. For parakeets, with all the genetic weaknesses and problems they now suffer from, and for any hybrid species of bird, or birds with recessive color mutations (such as any IRN mutations, and all cockatiel mutations, which would be any colors other than normal grey, particularly white face and albino birds)--for all of these birds, in particular, I feel COQ10 is a life extending supplement.


Again, the above is my conclusion. Hope this helps.
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I don't think it would hurt to ask your vet. In relation to all other supplements and herbs even, of course. They all have interactions.