PBFD and Me (a story of treatment) - Page 2

07-16-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by svolk

Do you know why this is? I've never heard this before.

Nope, but here is an excerpt from an email from him:

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Circovirus has been made to infect South American birds but I
think it was only a laboratory situation (e.g., injected with it) or it was
in very concentrated, unusual, stressful circumstances and even then only
once. I'll get the exact details. Lovebirds and budgies are known to survive
better and become negative or can go on to have the chronic, progressive
form of the disease. I'll try to get some info for you.

I am still waiting for more information.

07-16-2007, 08:39 PM

That is very interesting, Dayna! Am I reading this correctly that there has only been one South American species who actually had PBFD? Amazing. Excellent news for the budgies that there may be hope! This is really good information. Thank you so much for sharing.

I recall Dr. Ford from "elsewhere." Isn't he the veterinarian who is so highly respected throughout the country?

07-16-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Calvins Mom

That is very interesting, Dayna! Am I reading this correctly that there has only been one South American species who actually had PBFD? Amazing. Excellent news for the budgies that there may be hope! This is really good information. Thank you so much for sharing.

I recall Dr. Ford from "elsewhere." Isn't he the veterinarian who is so highly respected throughout the country?

Dr. Ford is fantastic. He comes up here to visit, stayed at my house, and vetted my birds. I am hoping to see him again in September. He works with world renowned Dr. Speer (who co-wrote) the "care conservation and breeding of large macaws".

Scott has spoken all over the country, and written numerous articles. You can visit his personal site at

Alaska Bird Doc / Home
(if you go to photos and click on January 2007, you can see me at the first juneau bird club meeting, and also my store!)

And his work site with Dr. Speer at:

medcenterbirds / Home

07-16-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dayna

Scott Ford told me that my south american birds (macaw, amazons and conures) were not really at risk.

Are South American birds considered "New World Birds???" In researching PBFD I often read terms like "Old World" & "New World" and always assumed that western hemisphere was New World and Eastern Hemisphere was Old World.

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Originally Posted by dayna

Lance,

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This is the one we have:

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Awesome!!! That was what I wanted to hear, you can use an Ozone machine as a preventative measure for bacteria and viruses. For some reason I think one of the local middle schools recently had an outbreak of some sort, and I thought the news said they sanitized the school with an Ozone machine.

07-16-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Jack

Are South American birds considered "New World Birds???" In researching PBFD I often read terms like "Old World" & "New World" and always assumed that western hemisphere was New World and Eastern Hemisphere was Old World.

Yes, old world species are at risk for PBFD and new world are at "less risk" for PBFD.

07-16-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by svolk

Do you know why this is? I've never heard this before.

Nor have I Sarah. I hope Dr. Ford and any other A.V. that any of us has a rapport/good relationship with, will chime in on that - either directly or thru one of their associates who are members here.

I see in Dayna's post that she used the term "not really at risk". Not really are words that confuse me somewhat.
Looking forward to hearing the "exact details" on that from Dr. Ford.

Trying hard not to think of the poor Amazon that got injected/or etc. with the virus in the laboratory.

07-16-2007, 10:07 PM

Thank you for sharing your story Dayna! It is so nice to hear a happy ending! The love and dedication you have for your birds is amazing.

07-16-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ~J~

Nor have I Sarah. I hope Dr. Ford and any other A.V. that any of us has a rapport/good relationship with, will chime in on that - either directly or thru one of their associates who are members here.

I see in Dayna's post that she used the term "not really at risk". Not really are words that confuse me somewhat.
Looking forward to hearing the "exact details" on that from Dr. Ford.

Trying hard not to think of the poor Amazon that got injected/or etc. with the virus in the laboratory.

What part of the words "not really" confuse you? As per his email, he explained that while these birds are not at risk, during times of high stress or being injected they can come down with the illness.

Again, I did not want to turn this into a huge debate. If it comes down to it, I will just ask the mods to delete this thread and I will go along my merry way. I posted this to be MY experiance. and did not want to start some HUGE debate.

07-16-2007, 10:16 PM

Thank you so much for sharing your story Dayna. I'm so glad it turned out well.

I was trying to find out a bit more about PBFD a few days ago. I definitely remembered coming across talk of a variance in the susceptibility of the different species of parrots. Here are a few sites I just found that may help clarify what Dr. Ford was saying.

About more susceptible birds including Old World/New World:
Avian Biotech Europe - PBFD Information (3rd paragraph)
Avian Diseases 101 (2nd paragraph under the PBFD heading)

07-16-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cfulhage

Thank you so much for sharing your story Dayna. I'm so glad it turned out well.

I was trying to find out a bit more about PBFD a few days ago. I definitely remembered coming across talk of a variance in the susceptibility of the different species of parrots. Here are a few sites I just found that may help clarify what Dr. Ford was saying.

About more susceptible birds including Old World/New World:
Avian Biotech Europe - PBFD Information (3rd paragraph)
Avian Diseases 101 (2nd paragraph under the PBFD heading)

Thank you Camille for posting those links. Those were some good reads!