Little Angels Zuppy Question - Page 2

10-24-2007, 10:16 AM

Karen when you get a chance can you let me know what the test was called, where it was sent, and what the results should look like.

Like how was the nutritional deficiency stated? What elements too, like vitamin a ? I'd love to do a scraping on both of them if it'll reveal nutritional things since that's all I care about regarding bloods....THANKS

10-24-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy215

Karen when you get a chance can you let me know what the test was called, where it was sent, and what the results should look like.

Like how was the nutritional deficiency stated? What elements too, like vitamin a ? I'd love to do a scraping on both of them if it'll reveal nutritional things since that's all I care about regarding bloods....THANKS

I'll get the details from my AV for you Cindy. I had the skin scraping done because of her dry skin, more-so than the feather loss. She regained her feathers right away but her skin remained extremely thick (in some areas) and dry. Her skin scrapings came back as; Hyperkeratosis from being Vit. A deficient.

10-24-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FeathersNFur8

Josh I know it's quite common for babies to have stress bars on their feathers. I have seen a feather make a clean break at the stress bar mark. It ends up looking just like someone cut it with scissors when it breaks off. If they are barbering they can also do a clean cut. But I doubt she is barbering at this young age. If she were breaking them off due to rough play I'd expect to see the feather be V shaped at the end and not a clean cut.

Karen, thank you, the breaks are at the stress bar mark, I didnt put 2 and 2 trogether though. I cant describe it, I'll have to get a picture, but they are clean cuts, kinda v-shaped I'd say. I'm glad its not unusual though for babies, thank you for easing my mind a bit. Do you think the wing feathers getting kinda comb l;ike on the outsides are for the same reason?

10-24-2007, 10:33 AM

THANKS!

I get it now. She had a secondary condition from the deficiency. Like other birds could get respiratory things from the same deficiency.

Out of curiosity did she have a preen gland problem, too?

10-24-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2horse

Is there any chance someone else crimps the tail. Peanut has being systematically chopping everyone else's tails. He has been giving the others decorative kinks in the tails. The feather later beaks off where he bent it. Babies play rough and rarely have a good looking tail until they learn exactly how a tail should be taken care of. Peanut is the only one that has a halfway decent tail.

Peanut is such a character. Funny that his tail is decent because apparently, he's in charge of all tails.

10-24-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy215

THANKS!

I get it now. She had a secondary condition from the deficiency. Like other birds could get respiratory things from the same deficiency.

Out of curiosity did she have a preen gland problem, too?

No, Kady had that.

But we got that under control now. I am forever trying to push Vit. A.

10-24-2007, 02:04 PM

Hey Karen, here are some pictures of Jewels broken tail feathers. What do you think?

I showered her before work this mornin and her flihts are much better now.

10-24-2007, 02:26 PM

Josh that looks like rough play damage. A feather broken by Peanut looks like it has a fold in it. Babies seem to preen the contour feathers first which is important for insulation, then each others heads, then flights and last of all tails.
Tails are very tempting when being waved in your face, like a lure put there to be taken as bait.

10-24-2007, 02:40 PM

What a field day Peanut would have at Josh's! Those giant yellow feathers wow.

I'm sure it's not Jewel herself. My guess is it's rough play like 2horse said meaning even on cages when up there messing around ...or even in her own cage. She's probably not graceful yet in manuvering that tail either.

10-24-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by justjoshin

Hey Karen, here are some pictures of Jewels broken tail feathers. What do you think?

I showered her before work this mornin and her flihts are much better now.

Josh I'm seeing stress bars at each break. It's a weak point in the feather. Combine that with some rough play and the fact that young macaws just don't have a clue how to work that tail to protect it, is causing the breaks at those points.