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Old 10-11-2007, 05:50 PM   #11
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Now that you mention this, this is what mine do. A little nibble first thing, then it seems they like to really EAT later in the morning.
That is just what Winston does too. I end up throwing most of his breakfast away. He has weeds and flowers from the garden mid morning , then shares our lunch !! and has a warm dinner at night time, as well as his soaked seeds and fruit through the day.
Does any one know if they can have hebal Tea's ?? I read Camomile tea and flowers are good for them ??
He just loves his chicken bones, just the big ones..they are his favorite food.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:59 PM   #12
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I was reading this short article <below> about foraging and it recommends feeding twice a day and removing food after 20-30 minutes.

I don't think I could do that. My birds don't even start eating until later in the morning. <side note> I read an article recently that said Macaws are late morning eaters by nature as compared to some other species that want to eat as soon as the sun is up. I would be so worried that I fed at the wrong time and they would be going hungry if I removed food so quickly.

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FORAGING

In the wild, it is common for birds to spend the morning foraging for food. They move from place to place seeking, probing, tearing, and discovering edible foods. In other words, they work for their meal. They must also be on the lookout for predators during their food searches. To minimize exposure to danger, many birds have evolved a food-holdingsac called a crop. This allows them to ingest large amounts of food in a short time and move on to a safe haven to digest it. The day is left for other activities, but the food search begins again in the afternoon.

All parrots and passerines (mynahs, canaries, and finches) have crops. Other groups of birds, such as penguins and gulls, do not have crops.

Pet birds, on the other hand, usually have food provided for them all day long. Foraging and twice-daily feeding behaviors are eliminated. What can result is boredom, lack of natural curiosity, and "fussy" feeding behaviors.

To help ensure a pet bird's emotional and physical well-being, an attempt should be made to modify the environment to stimulate natural feeding behaviors. It may require time for birds to adjust to new routines and toys, but persistence pays off!

The list below provides some ideas on how to eliminate feeding boredome and stimulate interest. These are only some suggestions - creativity and imagination can supply the rest.


Hang vegetables and fruits on a rod-type feeder. Birds must hold the feeder to keep it from moving while they eat.
Weave foods into the bars of the cage. The bird must climb to the spot and "unweave" them.

Provide cooked chiclen leg bones to larger parrots. It will require considerable effort to strip the meat and crack the bone to reach the rich marrow.

Stuff food in the "nooks and crannies" of pine cones. This encourages food-seeking and probing behaviors. Treats will reward the bird for its effort.

Commercially prepared or homemade food-toy combinations can combine nuts, dried fruits, and vegetables. This combines playtime with food-gathering activities.

Put your bird on twice-daily feedings. Remove food after 20 or 30 minutes. This stimulates active feeding twice a day and provides the thrill of anticipation.

I'm not too crazy about this article either. And for birds with food issues definitely not. Like abused birds.

I agree with the twice a day feeding of the "large meal" however not with the removing of it so fast. I think most rescues do the twice a day but not remove it either so fast. What the heck? LOL

And for Parrotlets of course no way, they eat all day every day.

I do believe we "raise them" to be perch potatoes and overfeed/demand feed. And I believe in offering them "work for food" opportunities. But only if we do it right. Free flight people follow a twice a day (mainly, and often a once per day schedule) but these are athletes and in "training" and very different than our birds. They get something small in the morning/during the day, and the "big meal" in the afternoon. Which is the time all birds eat the most to fill the crop for overnights.

I remove all the seed and pellets (almost) at 2 and give fresh only in there till 4 pm or so (when I work)....but Parrotlets like to pick at some seed in between the fresh stuff so I dont remove all of it. And never would. In fact I never did that to any species but I did cut it down to encourage fresh eating.

Only psychologically and physically healthy birds though....and rehomes and rescues dont really count either imo........

I liked Tielfans post about species clues and found it interesting and it makes alot of sense.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:24 PM   #13
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I only remove the food after 2 hours if it is fresh or cooked. I feed our birds after they have been up, out and playing for 2 hours. They are hungry by then and hungry for their first meal, Volkman mix and Harrison pellets. I feed enough so they don't get hungry during the day while I am at work and then I feed any fresh or cooked foods at night so I can throw away if they don't eat it. I do feed chicken bones on occasion, some of our birds like them and some do not. They also get foraging toys for their treats.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:22 AM   #14
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I was sent an interesting article about a layered salad that encourages birds to forage.

My fids seem to all enjoy this much better than what they used to get for breakfast. I've modified it a bit but the concept is good.

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Old 11-09-2007, 09:31 AM   #15
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I was sent an interesting article about a layered salad that encourages birds to forage.

My fids seem to all enjoy this much better than what they used to get for breakfast. I've modified it a bit but the concept is good.

Layered Salad

Thanks Jeanne, I LOVE the layered salad, too. I make my fresh that way most times. It keeps for me three days because I dont use citrus so I make new batches Sunday, Tuesday night and Friday more or less. It keeps crisp and fresh longer in glass than plastic I found.

I also dont put the pasta I put mixed grains I keep in a seperate container and mix in with the fruits when serving. That's just so I can put their multivitamin on it and be sure they eat it though before I mix it all up.

Sometimes during the week instead I just rough chop and feed it random not all nice and layered just to keep it interesting. Or if I'm home I'll put a whole big piece of stuff for enrichment and because I'm not in the mood to use the food processor and layer ....and when I"m really not in the mood the frozen layered salad comes in SO HANDY!
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:00 AM   #16
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I can relate to that ;-)
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