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Old 12-21-2007, 09:12 PM   #1
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Arrow What do you think about this video?

THIS IS NOT CLEO AND I!
Look at this video and see what you think. I found it while looking for some blue front zon videos on Youtube. It is "interesting" to see how this man handles Lenny. It is long, but watch it all.

YouTube - My Parrot Lenny acting a fool
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:21 PM   #2
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He's a big hearty bird. Looked well loved and he seems to have trusted that hand on him. What did YOU think Mark?
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:36 PM   #3
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LOL, this is exactly how Eve loves to play as well as Poe, Eve's bfa friend. Poe a 5 year old female BFA never bites, and this type of play has never been a problem. But it really depends on the bird human relationship, for some birds this can turn into a huge aggression issue. But from what I've seen that happens when the owner pushes the play and stops respecting the birds limits. And the bird stops biting in play and ignores the rules of the game. When I do this as soon as it seem to be getting carried away I stop and let the bird calm down, otherwise I think you cross the boundary of play and into aggression. Both Poe and Eve will stop wrestling on command and completely calm down. This type of interaction needs total trust. I've done this type of play with other amazons as well and they love it, but only with ones that know the rules so to speak. This way the interaction stays positive.
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:50 AM   #4
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I love that growling noise, or whatever it is, he was making. Great vid Mark!

Ryan plays like that all the time, he loves rolling around on his back. I say this: "Ryan, I'm going to eat you." And he immediately drops on his back waiting to be roughed up. It's so funny. He loves his belly tickled.

Mark, if you were looking for cute BFA's too: Check this little guy out. He's adorable and he mimicks his "papa's" voice. It' very cute.

YouTube - Awesome Talking parrot - Welcoming hi PaPa home!
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:54 AM   #5
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What did YOU think Mark?
Leigh, I agree he is a big hearty bird. I see a very trusting bird. Maybe...too trusting. I've, even with scared and untrusting Cleo, played a little rough with her until she get's in zon overload and then stop cause she can't control herself and bites very hard. But obviously she doesn't trust me as much as Lenny trusts his owner.
At about 2 minutes into the video,to me,his play gets over the top. I've read to stay away from petting in between the shoulder blades, too much back petting and he is even patting Lenny on his lower back where the tail feathers start, patting. A lot of intentional patting that could lead to sexual stimulation and overbonding. It's where he is patted and rubbed that caught my attention...the rough play is up to the owner as long as the bird isn't bothered and he doesn't appear to try to get away. Cleo LOVES her belly scratched as well.
The bird is obviously not scared or threatened. The owner doesn't appear mean. I'm sure that in the wild, these birds play this hard with their flock.
Also, another big factor is when you read a viewer comment like: "ive got a cockatiel but watching this i want a parrot now". As a tiel owner, I can tell anyone contemplating adding an Amazon to your flock isn't like just adding another pet. Amazons can be very demanding. This bird Lenny is an exceptional one that I hope continues as playful and trusting as he is. He appears young. If he hasn't hit the two's yet, things could change. Cleo's problems apparantly began when she was two, became hormonal and agressive. So, this video, as do so many others out there, can paint an illogical picture of avian ownership. It concerns me that someone with too much $$ and no patience or drive to truly understand birds might see this video and make a rash decision. You don't see any bad behavior videos,( well, I haven't looked for them) of birds screaming at 8 am, calling their flock, tearing up pillows on the sofa, which Cleo did last nite and my wife hasn't found yet. pooping on your Sunday shirt, refusing to stepup and hiding under a kitchen table while you need to go to work, making you bleed, and so on. I don't video those events either, LOL, but they are a realistic part of the picture.
On the other hand, it can entice a potential bird owner to read and know more about owning a bird. So, it's not all bad.
The bird looks happy and healthy and doesn't try to get away, even when he tugs on his tailfeathers. So, I'm sure the bird is fine.
Believe it or not, I respect Cleo's ability to dictate some decisions. Although I need her to abide by the rules and step up when I need her to and not just if she's in the mood (what I'm working on now), a bird needs to know that it can remain a bird. Our worlds are refined and in order and controlled. When you have a bird, you have stepped into the jungle and only so much of it can be controlled. The rest is raw Mother Nature that you have brought into your home.
This interaction made me think a lot about human and bird behavior/interaction. He comments that Lenny is his "puppy" or some reference to a puppy, the video.
But, like everything else, I guess bird play is individual. To me, this is an example of a bird being too trusting.
Birds are not puppies nor are puppies birds...and I, for one, hope they never are..
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:28 PM   #6
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I couldnt agree with you more Mark. This is where some people, not everyone, but a good bit, think life with a bird is like a happy video around the clock. Amazon sales will soar with that being viewed. The reality doesnt usually hit home until you have a bird home, get involved with the community and find your way to other videos showing the extreme opposite. Then your own hands on experience that involves stuff thats not always fun. This is when your true patience that you may not ever knew you had shows up, or doesnt in some situations. I wish all birds were like Lenny. Maybe then so many wouldnt end up in bad situations. I wonder though if Lenny is young and still fun. If he hasnt gone hormonal yet with all that handling, the guy could still eventually get chomped. Either he will learn to be more respectful of his "puppy" or the honeymoon will be over. On the other hand, its nice to see a video with joyful part of living with a bird as a companion.
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