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Old 07-17-2008, 09:57 AM   #41
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Leigh, I have no doubt that will you do the right thing by Occy. And I do believe the care giver knows best too. Obviously I'm no expert on Ekkie's here, but Occy's beak doesn't look that over grown to me either. If you feel it isn't an emergency, I would definitely trust that.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:06 AM   #42
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Heres something else Im thinking, as I hash this all out in my head. The beak is keratin. Being thats the same thing finger nails are made of, wouldnt it make sense to think, some people, me being one, grow finger nails rapidly and they arent sick. Wouldnt the beak be more misshapen if it was health issue? I ve seen finger nails that have issues that are directly connected to a health problem. But if Idont file mor cut my nails they grow fats. Its in my whole family. Wouldnt be the same if a bird just doesnt chew enough? I can remember seeing a pic of an ekkie with a super long beak, and I mean looooong. The owner took it to the vet and all the test came back ok. The vet said ekkies just grow long beaks sometimes.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:29 AM   #43
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Here is a photo of a wild Ekkie WITH a rather over grown beak, much much more over grown than Occy's....

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Old 07-17-2008, 10:31 AM   #44
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Here is a photo of a wild Ekkie WITH a rather over grown beak, much much more over grown than Occy's....

OH CRAP! You're not kidding!
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:40 AM   #45
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I have seen people's vet checked pet Ekkies AND CAGs with beaks that over grown and they have them dremeled as often as every 3 weeks...so I definitely say do not panic!
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:42 AM   #46
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IMO...I would get the dremel out and do just a tiny bit a couple of times a week.
Call a breeder and get their opinion since they would know an Ekee better than a Vet.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:42 AM   #47
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Heres something else Im thinking, as I hash this all out in my head. The beak is keratin. Being thats the same thing finger nails are made of, wouldnt it make sense to think, some people, me being one, grow finger nails rapidly and they arent sick. Wouldnt the beak be more misshapen if it was health issue? I ve seen finger nails that have issues that are directly connected to a health problem. But if Idont file mor cut my nails they grow fats. Its in my whole family. Wouldnt be the same if a bird just doesnt chew enough? I can remember seeing a pic of an ekkie with a super long beak, and I mean looooong. The owner took it to the vet and all the test came back ok. The vet said ekkies just grow long beaks sometimes.
It's a possibility it could be congenital. Kimba had mentioned that possibility in her post.

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Like my crayon it could be congenital and not disease. But a trim is in order, and some tests to rule out liver issues or deficiencies, and most likely a diet change. Even if you are feeding him correctly for an Ekki, it might not be right for him. Like crayon who needed weekly trims... a diet change turned those trims into once every 4 months. And her original diet was fine for conures, just not fine for her.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:40 AM   #48
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Yeah, if everything is fine health wise, (I didn't mean you should go running to the vet. Time is on your side, waiting till the moult is over should be fine, with the exception that there will be more beak to deal with than before.) it very well could be congenital. Crayon was a painted conure, who was also inbred on the account of the rarity of the species. Stupid IMO, but I loved her never the less. She had an over grown beak, as well as a bent mishapped toe. She was on a pellet diet with lots of fresh stuff. Her diet was much that same as people do now. She chewed some, was happy and extremely healthy, except for that beak. She was tested and her beak was trimmed, (it was not misshapen just really long), and everything was fine. Than I began to play around with her diet, I tossed the pellets and went all natural focusing on Vitamin A and some other key factors. After about a month or so he beak just stopped growing. My avian vet, and avian nutritionist (Katherin Queensbury, and Laure Hess) was amazed, and asked to see the diet as they could not believe the difference. For the next 9 years of her short life she did not have to deal with weekly beak trims. (she died from internal bleeding as a result of accidental ingestion of something sharp, RIP) I don't remember her exact diet, but it was very complex and had to be made by hand. But I bring this up so that you consider that if it is a matter of diet change than your Ekkie does not have to live with the over grown beak, or scary stress inducing beak trims
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:02 PM   #49
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Thanks for working through this with me guys! I APPRECIATE IT!!! This little man is very dear to me, so I will do right by him.
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:27 PM   #50
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Thank you Leigh for the good topic. It's questions like this that gives us all the opportunity to learn.
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