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02-25-2007, 06:27 AM
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#11 | | | Who am I to change mother nature, Where are these Pellets to be found in the wild?
Mankind seems to think he/she has the right to cause Animals and Humans to live longer, WHY?
We offer our birds Pellets, Never as a staple, this has been proven over and over as un-healthy for birds, more and more Vets are changing there opinions of a all pellet diet.
We read and study what birds eat in the Wild, and do our best to duplicate that here in our home, Mankind created Pellets, they are not a NATURAL source of food for any bird.
What do birds eat in the wild, Seed,Fruits,Vegtables, Fresh Water.
What is the average life span of birds in the wild?
These life spans are controled by Mother Nature, Here in our Avairies and we the Keepers of our flock live by a saying "who are we to change what Mother has put in place?"
My personal opinion is "Mankind needs to stop making changes to the natural process", "he/she will cause the destruction of our world way before the time MOTHER has set".
We humans and animals that live longer by "Mankinds Intervention", are stealing from those lifes yet to come, if not, eliminating those lifes to come period.
By living longer we consume more of Mothers natural resources for a longer period of time, and by doing so...we steal from life yet to come.
This is why we don't offer our birds a staple diet of Pellets, we choose not to interfer with Mother and the path she has set for us to follow. |
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02-25-2007, 01:01 PM
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#14 | | | Schroeder has the usual two bowls food / one bowl water setup in his cage, but more often than not I add a third plastic bowl of food to the bottom of his cage (he likes to snack down there)
One bowl always has a little bit of fruity Zupreem and alot of Harrisons high potency course (weaning him off the Zupreem has been suprisingly easy!)
The other one is more for treats/snacks, and sometimes I put a few nutriberries in there but usually it has "Omars Premium Blend" which was suggested by the store I got him from (also Omars  of course).
To quote their website:
OMAR'S PREMIUM BLEND is a seed-based mix (no sunflower seeds) which contains a dazzling array of goodies for your parrot:
Safflower Seeds, Rolled Corn, Pumpkin Seeds, Buckwheat, Oat Groats, Peanuts, Zupreem Pellets, Hulled Almonds, Anise, Banana Chips, Carrots, Coconut Chips, Kibbled Corn, Pasta, Pistachio Nuts, Alaskan Peas, Pinenuts, Hulled Walnuts, Soybean Pellets, Papaya, Cinnamon Sticks, Dried Peppers and Millet Spray.
The third plastic dish is where I put fresh fruits or cooked foods, most often a mash of sweet potatoes, carrots and brocolli but sometimes apples or strawberries and snap peas. |
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02-25-2007, 01:24 PM
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#17 | | | My bird’s diet consists of:
Cooked mix containing:
Broken sugar beans, broken peas (rondo, maple, green, yellow), split peas (green and yellow), coarse maize grit, wheat, oats, sweet sorghum, lentils and mung beans (china peas). 1000g
Nutripro - aviary rusk 175g with spirulina, vitamin, minerals and very little calcium mixed in.
I mix cooked mix with nutripro and then take 1cup for the budgies to which I add 25g millet.
To the balance I add stripe sunflower 100g and give 1 cup mix to each pair of suns or irn. On top of this is added 250g chopped fresh fruit or veggies shared between all. Sometimes I give 6-8 peanuts (shelled) and 6-8 fruit parrot puffs to each pair about 2 times a week. On top of the food they may also find dried fruit or chilies or some nutty mix snack. I try to have the food more abundant in variety in summer to mimic nature, with less variety in the winter months. I have not had any success or much desire to feed a pellet based mix as my belief is as Arty describes, there are no pellets in nature. Pellets have also being linked to dehydration issues/ kidney function with long term use, irrespective of which manufacturer claims different. I see this as sales pitch only.
The budgies now love this mix although the fruit or veggies need to be grated as they don’t eat with feet. The budgies were converted from a seed diet.
The inside pets snack on a great deal more variety although I do limit the more junky stuff.
While I am feeding seeds / sunflower it forms a very tiny percentage of daily food. I don’t see this as a problem as all the birds get adequate exercise. Sometimes the seed is in sprouted form.
The second hand left over food gets given to the chickens so nothing goes to waste. |
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02-25-2007, 03:07 PM
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#18 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by cfulhage Sounds like you do what I do Kate. Ollie doesn't get anything in her metal bowls that can't stay there for an entire day. All stuff that will spoil she eats off of her own mini plate or mini bowl on the bottom of the cage. | Me too...thats what I do. |
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02-25-2007, 08:01 PM
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#19 | | | I have through several years of trying different ideas - come upon this one that works for my birds.
My Tiels get a bowl of Higgins Tiel and Keet mixed 1 bag of Tiel to about 2 bags of Keet - total of 75 pounds of food (My mom gets some also for her Tiel and Keet)
They also get a bowl of Zupreem Tiel Fruit Blend, a treat cup for oat groats and one of Small fruit and veggie.
They do not eat much fruit and veggies except for some of them, but I still give it to them in the hopes they will. The few that do eat veggies are showing the others that it is pretty good.
For those that aren't aware - current studies show that Tiels and budgies do require seed in their diet.
For my Ringies - I have tried an all pellet diet to everything else in between.
What I have noticed recently is that they do better on a combination of different things which I have always done, but they do get some sunflower in their mix. I currently have Higgins Sunburst Delite Medium in one dish, Zupreem Fruit Blend in another dish and then they get fresh foods when they come out in the evenings. They also get Nutriberries, cooked mixes and Avicakes. I have found that they seem to keep their weight and heaviness better and their feathers also seem to be shinier. Indy has even gotten back to his old crazy self.
BTW - if you are using a safflower based mix versus sunflower - they are both oil seeds so they are pretty much the same.
Last edited by Ringneckmom; 02-25-2007 at 08:03 PM.
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