well, joel - might come as a surprise to you but not everybody CAN do that. has nothing to do with finding excuses or not... i live in an 1 BR apartment building on the second floor, and there's not a whole lot of space around the building to begin with.... and even that is hard to afford on a student stipend. so, building flights onto the windows borders quite close to impossible (and no, i won't list ALL the reason but some of them would be that people live below me, the poles i'd need to reach my window in the first place would have to be sitting on the neighbors yard, and that the building owner probably wouldn't allow it)

sometimes i wish you would just hold back a little bit with those judgmental statements, and respect that not everybody has the location/means/living situation like you where you can provide all these great things for your birds

Unfortunatley we rent so the window thing is out. We are going to get some f.s. lighting. I was looking at the Featherbrite Capitol Light. Anyone have any experience with that? Also we are going to try and get some sort of outside set up so they can go outside on the weekends.

Bee.....Why do you and some others seem to sometimes or occassionally or always like to jump on my bones (& not in the enjoyable way either), when I speak. Darn Venusians - some of ya!!!!!

Bee.......Did you read my VERY FIRST sentence? Did I or did I not state: "IF AT ALL POSSIBLE" - Sheeeeeezzzze!!!!!!... Where did I say it is possible for "everybody"? ....... I clearly was meaning that if it is possible for bird keepers to provide better or the best living arangements for their birds, then they should do that or strive to do that and not make excuses why they can't - like many seem to do. I was not pointing fingers at anyone specifically. I also need to make improvements for my own flock btw. I'll stop there for now.

Dear sweet, innocent Joel
I sincerely admit my mis-understanding of your words, as they appeared to be slightly offensive to my nature. However, in your response you sufficiently clarified the matter, which I appreciate.
I absolutely agree with your perception that "best-available technology within possibilities" (quote from the Austrian environmental law) should be employed in order to spoil our little birdies rotten.
Best regards,
B.Br. (representative of Spoiled-Rotten-Stinkefuesse Inc.)


got ya... just sounded a little harsh to me, but i agree with your last statement.... jeezzz, Joel, we seem to be the living example why men and women always run into misunderstandings

Thank you Tiffany for the calm response, nice to hear that you will do what you can. I know nothing of the light ya mentioned, maybe someone else does. The important things I have found is that you use enough light (2 tubes better than 1); electronic ballast instead of magnetic; highest CRI you can find is "best"; good Kelvin temp. rating of 5,000-5500K is all around best I hear; proper distance from top of flight/cage; proper amt. of time on; reflector type hood (white is prolly best) and I think that's it. Search F.S. Lighting here at P.C. (if ya like) to see if I got it all.

One other thought - ya might just ask your landlord if ok to attach to a window, never know, they might say ok? Unlikely though if you are not renting a house vs. apt. etc.... Best wishes.

Yeah "ain't" that the truth Bee ...... But the fun comes in the "making up" part.



Signed: "Sweet Innocent" (as always) Joel.

it's good to hear that danny is doing better. i hope that the bloodwork comes back ok. my hopes are with you.

I am so sorry, everything has already been said about what to do, So I wish you luck with the visit, and I really hope everything goes well!!

Danny is home and eating happily as I type. They mentioned at the vet how quiet he was and how he hadn't made a peep, which is not typical for Danny at all. He was quiet the whole ride home which made me nervous but the second we walked in the door and he heard the other birds he started calling away! So I am relieved! He is eating and be talkative. He seems to have lost some use of his feet. While he seems steady, he is just not gripping things like he usually does. I will ask about that tomorrow when I talk to the vet.

Hi, you put a smile on my face, glad to see he is home and feeling better. We will search for information once you talk to the vet and find out what might be wrong.