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Old 09-06-2007, 06:21 PM   #1
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I'm just going to link to this article by Jane Hallander, since it is copy written: The Master Mentality. It's a very interesting article about how we interact with our birds, and she happens to share many of my views about how it is we who need to adapt to our birds, and not them to us. She explores some of the labels we have put on avian behavior like "The terrible twos", and "Flock leaders" and attempts to explain why we are often erroneous in our perception of what is happening, and how our responses are colored by our need to control. Worth a read, I think, whether you agree with her or not.
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:17 PM   #2
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Thank you Nate, that was a very good read.

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They are not interested in hands-on petting and cuddling whenever it suits us humans.
We view the young parrot as we would a two-year-old child, ignoring any body language the parrot uses to tell us to stay out of his space until he asks for a head scratch. When pushing our hands away with his beak doesn't work, he goes to plan B---- a strike or bite.
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Instead of disciplining a young parrot who has learned to bite to keep errant humans out of his space, read the subtle body language that communicates his parrot nature..... then respect it. If we must have something to cuddle, get a puppy.
I think this concept is very difficult for many people to accept and something that many insist they do. Petting is OUR way to show love and affection but it's not a Parrot's way. Some birds will allow it and for some it's way beyond their boundaries and IMO should be respected more.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:13 PM   #3
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Yes, that was a good read, Nate. Thank you for sharing the link. Interesting concepts and more food for thought. Not to mention the beautiful grey photos at the top!

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Great article, Nate. Thanks.

I feel the same, that I should not strive to dominate my flock, but consider them equals and respect them. We have a relationship built on trust and not dominance, and they in turn respect me.
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Good article, thanks.

I feel similar that a bird must be a bird first and then my companion. Each time I get bitten I know I broke bird rules and deserved it.
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My heart always sinks when i hear someone looking for a fid to cuddle.

I have recommended cats many times.

I know Laker 'loves me', but it's birdy love. He's standing beside me typing on the up/down buttons as i type, looking to me for approval - in a way - that's how i see it - ... & now he's off to chat with Rio ~ Busy lad.

Thanks for the great reading. I'll share this where i can.
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This is a stunningly good and important article and I thank you for offering it. It hits a pet peeve of mine. Birds, unlike dogs, are not domesticated animals. Dogs, evolved in their relationship with people, pick up human cues and adapt to (some would even say manipulate) humans.

Many owners of birds try to create with the parrot the kind of relationship people have with dogs. So, the parrot is punished for its natural behavior. The fact is that while many people love birds, most of them should not have them as pets.

I raise parrots in a very large aviary and so I don't have any issues whatsoever about their biting, screaming, chewing or anything else they do. When I enter their aviary, they "tame" me.

There is great value to post articles like this and I hope more of this kind of valuable information will be offered.
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This is a good article with food for thought. My pet birds are in an unnatural environment and I need to satisfy their needs, and when I do, they become a better companion.
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Great article. I am always amazed at how folks think a bird needs to be petted and cuddled to be a good pet. It is a bird, not a cat! I look at a brd wanting affection as just the icing on the cake. in fact I actually discourage my birds from becoming dependant on affection as their main interaction with me! I will often offer a scratch, but I very respectful if they are not ready. I think this may be a big part of why I have not been bitten! They are very affectionate when they are ready!
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